Thursday, May 7, 2009

Formaldehyde - Harmless in Vaccines?

Many in the medical community maintain that formaldehyde is "Naturally occuring in our environment. Therefore, it is harmless in vaccines". Is this really true? I think back to the toxic trailers that our Hurricane Katrina victims were residing in and just shake my head in disbelief. These victims are currently being studied for the damaging effects of breathing high concentrations of formaldehyde.

I have also been told that there is such a minute amount of formalehyde in vaccines, that it is virtually harmless! Furthermore, in the link below, you will learn that "Chemicals like formaldehyde cross-link amino acids in proteins to chemically "cook" them. This often conserves the proteins antigens in a form that is useful for vaccines at the same time as it damages the toxin's ability to cause damage".

Source:

http://www.biology-online.org/biology-forum/about5735.html

Okay, so "what if" the person is suffering from a genetic abnormality where they have a misfolded protein? Then, formaldehyde is potentially toxic when injected!

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/conditions/autism/docs/MutationsProteinsandAutismModelingaPathway.pdf

Then, there is also the possibility that the person is missing a brain protein altogether too. Again, this could potentially be a lethal situation if the person were to receive vaccines containing formaldehyde.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/90571.php

Could this be why Sanofi Pasteur's DTaP vaccine, Tripedia (which contains formaldehyde) has Autism listed as a possible adverse reaction in post market reporting?

http://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=5966&image_type=product_pdf (page 11)

11 comments:

Becky Gillette said...

Here is a blog on that issue that I posted to www.toxictrailers.com (regarding formaldehyde in FEMA trailers, and other types of housing) on this issue:

Recent peer reviewed published research has demonstrated some pertinent information. It has demonstrated that certain genes are responsible for the metabolism and detoxification of formaldehyde. Some humans have abnormalities in these genes and are more susceptible to the adverse effects of formaldehyde. Therefore, there can be no safe standards. The so called 0.1 ppm by various agencies will have be reduced to account for this genetic variability in humans.

Jack Thrasher, Ph.D.
Toxicologist, Immunotoxicologist, Fetal toxicologist

Autism News Beat said...

Formaldehyde is a natural by-product of single carbon metabolism. Our bodies make about 2.5 mics/liter of blood/per day. A 12 pound infant makes more formaldehyde in one day than are contained in any five scheduled vaccines. The formaldehyde in vaccines in injected IM, and it cross links with proteins before it can enter the blood stream.

Dose makes the poison.

Dawn said...

Yes, Autism News Beat, but show me the studies where it says it is safe to inject IM into a person suffering from a genetic defect with regard to protein. According to the information that I have found, it will not crosslink with the protein if the person is suffering from this condition - therefore, the formaldehyde is toxic for these people.

Science Mom said...

For the facts on formaldehyde see: Just the VaxFormaldehyde in vaccines is harmless. Dawn, what is a 'genetic defect with regards to protein'? The amount contained within a vaccine isn't going to do anything.

Dawn said...

Actually Science Mom, for the people who carry an APOE3 protein, vaccines are toxic. Think genetic susceptibility to Autism, ADHD, learning disabilities. For the people who carry an APOE4 protein, vaccines are toxic also. Think genetic susceptibility to Alzheimers. For the people who carry an APOE2 protein, they should be able to handle toxins found in vaccines just fine because their body has the ability to properly detox. I will be posting more on this shortly.

Science Mom said...

Given the function of APOE3 and that is is found in more than half the population, I really don't see how you can associate vaccines with the expression of the allele.

You also haven't answered the question of what formaldehyde does and how it is 'toxic' in the amount found in vaccines when our own bodies produce several times more than that.

Dawn said...

Thank you Science Mom for your insight. Wow! 50% of the population? This makes perfect sense. It is no wonder why so many children are struggling in the areas of fine motor, gross motor, reading, writing, math, abstract reasoning, comprehension, and so much more. While 20% of our children are actually receiving services for their "diagnosed" special needs, I have always estimated that figure to be much higher based on my own personal experience with pediatricians not recognizing developmental delays and schools further hiding this enormous problem by dumbing down the Special Education Assessment Tests. So, I was probably right on about 80% of our children struggling from learning disabilities (60% being undiagnosed). I guess our country is in serious trouble!

As far as formaldehyde naturally occuring in our body, I won't sit here and debate with you because you have your own forum to do just that.

Mitochondrial Disorders are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to children genetically not being capable of handling vaccines. Just what other genetic disorders are involved and why aren't children being screened properly to see just who can handle them and who cannot? As soon as you show me proof that that is occuring we can than have a serious debate.

Science Mom said...

Thank you Science Mom for your insight. Wow! 50% of the population? This makes perfect sense. It is no wonder why so many children are struggling in the areas of fine motor, gross motor, reading, writing, math, abstract reasoning, comprehension, and so much more.I think you misunderstand; 50% of the population carries the gene (yes, that's a gene, not protein) but not all of them express it. The rest of your assumption is just that and is unsupported by any valid, scientific investigation.

As far as formaldehyde naturally occuring in our body, I won't sit here and debate with you because you have your own forum to do just that.Why not? You made the claim that formaldehyde in vaccines is 'toxic' and causing problems. Surely you have the literature to support that claim.

Mitochondrial Disorders are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to children genetically not being capable of handling vaccines. Just what other genetic disorders are involved and why aren't children being screened properly to see just who can handle them and who cannot? As soon as you show me proof that that is occuring we can than have a serious debate.Mitochondrial diseases affect ~1:5000-1:10,000 and children that have the disease are vaccinated. In fact, even more importantly since disease has a profound effect upon cellular function.

You also don't seem to understand how this works. There have been no genetic mutations/deletions/polymorphisms found thus far that have anything to do with vaccines, specifically. If you know of any, the onus would be upon you to provide that information so it can be debated, not the other way around. Since you are making the extraordinary claims.

Dawn said...

Ok Science Mom....how in the world do you know the ratio of people affected by Mitochondrial Disorders when even the top neurologists studying the condition don't even have a clue about the statistics?

Who exactly do you work for? Merck? GlaxoSmith Kline? Sanofi Pasteur? Please do tell. You guys are a dead give away when you "have an answer for everything" that is found in vaccines. I think you need to rethink your strategy.

We are done here.

Anonymous said...

Just curious...where are you getting your information from? A brief PubMed search reveals nothing concerning a link between vaccination-related injury and mitochondrial disorders or ApoE3/ApoE4 status? Nor can I find any articles concerning any effect of these things on formaldehyde metabolism. I'm not challenging you. As a junior-level scientist, I'm trying to keep an open mind to your and other's concerns. It would help if you could provide your references.

P.S. I receive no funding from any biotech or pharmaceutical industries.

Dawn said...

Anonymous, there is so much we do know and so much we don't know. Unfortunately, PubMed is not a good source of information. You really need to look at who is funding PubMed for clarification on that one. I will give you this though, you "can" learn a lot just by reading it - with an open mind of course. I learn so much just by talking to medical professionals. Their knowledge at times answers a lot of my unanswered questions! For example, my son's pediatrician has an allergist in her family. We were discussing life threatening peanut allergies and how they are on the rise. She believed that it was due to women consuming peanuts while pregnant. I shed some light on the fact that peanut oil is a suspected ingredient in the HIB vaccine. Her mouth fell open. So, you see, her knowledge makes sense to a degree - you just have to learn to connect the dots because even the medical community is left in the dark and only told half truths at best.

I urge you to attend a DAN (Defeat Autism Now) conference. There are many held on the east and west coasts throughout the year. There are scientists, doctors, nurses, and other professionals that do possess a lot of knowledge on the subject...much more than I can provide on this blog.

I commend you for wanting to learn more though.